Are You Scared of the First Kiss? (When to Make Your Move)

December 1st 2009 in Relationships/Love

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When it comes to women and courtship, I tend to move pretty slow. I blame it on the fact that I’m horrible at reading signals and, for better or worse, I try my best to be a gentleman. Sure, I may have a slick tongue and can find the perverse undertone in almost anything, I’m usually just talking shit. (Unless you gon’ do it).

At the end of the day, I’m a pretty shy guy.

Honest.

Back in the Taco Meat era, liquor was my great equalizer. My liquid courage if you will. Give me a couple rounds of Ketel & cran (or worse yet, any dark liquor) and I’d be a completely different and more aggressive person known as Taco Meat. He’s always good for a good time, but he often got me in way more trouble than it was worth.

But that was then and this is now.

Today, I’m a completely different person.

Being that I rarely drink these days, and when I do it’s in moderation, my aggressive side remains mostly dormant. In its place is everyday, cool, calm, collected and contemplative NWSO. While that makes for a better overall person, it sometimes sucks for my dating life.

A couple summers ago I was seeing this young lady named Regine. We’d go out a couple times a week, watch movies at each other’s house, have great conversations and an overall good time. I liked her a lot and believed the feeling was mutual, but I never saw an opportunity to make a move so I always chickened out never went in for a kiss—or anything else for that matter.

By time the fall came around, the romantic dynamic eventually phased out of the equation and Regine and I just fell into the friend zone. One day over dinner we found ourselves reminiscing on how we had evolved from potential daters to becoming such good friends.

I said something to the effect of, “Yeah, I guess it was a squandered opportunity.”

“What do you mean by that,” Regine asked.

“Well, I was really diggin’ you when we first met but things never went anywhere.”

“And whose fault is that?”

“No ones,” I replied. “I just never got the vibe you wanted to take it any further than just friends so I stayed in my lane.”

“Well, I thought the same thing about you because you never tried to kiss me or anything,” Regine said.

“I actually wanted to kiss you plenty of times but I never saw an opportunity.”

“What? You had plenty of chances,” she huffed. “Do you always move that slow?”

“Not always but I don’t go anywhere I’m not invited.”

“Well, you won’t have to worry about that anymore ’cause your invite was revoked a long time ago.”

Ouch!

Despite my blown opportunity with Regine due to moving too slow, it’s better than going for a kiss too soon. There’s nothing worse than leaning in for that first kiss and getting nothing but side cheek.

Talk about a blow to the male ego.

That’s happened to me once or twice in my lifetime and it never made me eager to go in for another kiss (or anything else) anytime soon thereafter. Call me slow all you want but without a clear and obvious signal from a woman that I have the green light I’d much rather wait for the right time to make a move.

Ladies, would you think a guy wasn’t interested if he took too long to kiss you? Would you prefer a guy take too long or go in too soon? How important is a first kiss to how far the relationship will go? Are women just as anxious about a first kiss as men? What kind of signals do you give a guy that you want to kiss him? Would you ever make the first move on a guy that was moving too slow? Fellas, have you ever gone in for a first kiss and got side cheek? Did the “rejection” make you less likely to try again anytime soon? How good are you at reading a woman’s signals? What would you do if a woman made a move on you first? Does liquor help cut down on sexual tension?

Speak your piece…

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“Are You Scared of the First Kiss? (When to Make Your Move)”
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Spinster

Sorry, can’t help you. I’m just as slow as you. Seriously. I get teased about it often. :-|


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da ThRONe

Im like you Ans Im as slow as it gets. I feel like if its ment it will happen. When you and Regine had that convo if she really liked you you guys could have moved on from there(ofcourse thats if she was still single). I never understood the whole “friends” thing anyways. The two people in a couple should be “friends” anyways. Thats how I define a couple friends that are intimate. As long as both of you are single why should there be a time limit?


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Skye Blue

Wow, that discussion with Regine was painful to read. Ain’t nothing worse than being relegated to the friend zone when you don’t want to be. I feel for you on that one.

1. Ladies, would you think a guy wasn’t interested if he took too long to kiss you?

Yep.

2. Would you prefer a guy take too long or go in too soon?

Both options are real unappealing. I tend to be a real clear communicator, so if I want a guy to kiss me, he would know.

3. How important is a first kiss to how far the relationship will go?

To me it’s only important if it sucks, and when it sucks that would be the end of me and the dude in question.

3. Are women just as anxious about a first kiss as men?

I think so.

4. What kind of signals do you give a guy that you want to kiss him?

Subtlety isn’t my strong suit. I just tell him.

5. Would you ever make the first move on a guy that was moving too slow?

If I thought I knew him well enough/was real comfortable with him definitely.


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singlegirlie

Yes! If you don’t try to kiss me I’ll figure you are not interested. First date is iffy – if I’m really feeling the guy I’ll be down for the kiss. But not always. If there’s no kiss (even a peck) on the 2nd date, I’ll wonder. If a third date passes and you still haven’t kissed me, you’ll likely be in the friend zone. There’s always the opportunity – when you say goodbye. Just do it. You’re the guy. We get to spend hours getting pretty and stressing about whether we’ll hear from you again – you get to muster up the courage to make the first move. Maybe it sounds old fashioned, but that’s how a lot of women think. At least this one :)


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Charli

I wonder how you walk that fine line between giving the green light, without being aggressive. I figure when a guy has multiple opportunities, and doesn’t make a move, that he’s not interested enough to take it further. But the funny part about the convo with Regine is that it’s straight out of a sit com or romantic comedy.

However, to answer the questions: When you’re really feeling the guy, I don’t think there’s a “too soon” to the kiss. It’s not like we don’t think about it– A LOT! Yeah, we’ve already mentally rehearsed a few different versions of that kiss and already played out the lame kiss (and our response), the eh, that was alright kiss, the OH MY GOD I can’t even stand up anymore kiss and the pump the brakes before my panties come off kiss. So I don’t know that a guy that you’re feeling can move too soon. Moving too soon is really about that guy you’re not sure about yet.

As far as the kiss and the relationship– I think a kiss is a marker of chemistry. Sometimes it’s just not there, sometimes it’s workable, worthy of improvement, and sometimes it’s off the charts.


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Shay from L.A. (Los Angeles)

I take the lead if I am feeling the person and lean in for the kiss. People make things so difficult with all of these rules!


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Elle

Ladies, would you think a guy wasn’t interested if he took too long to kiss you? Would you prefer a guy take too long or go in too soon?
- I’d like to venture and say that if a woman agrees to go on a second or even third date with the same guy, she has by then contemplated whether or not she can see herself kissing him. If she didn’t, there would be no second date. Sex is a completely different ball game. But if you’re good enough to go on several dates with, I don’t mind kissing you.
However, I am too shy to initiate and lean in. But I make sure I make it verbally clear. So I guess you could say I’m shy as far as actions are concerned but I got the cojones to speak my mind and say what I want. There is no way a guy wouldn’t know that I’d love to kiss him. If he doesn’t, I can’t help but assume the feeling isn’t mutual.

How important is a first kiss to how far the relationship will go?
- I never bought into that. Of course, a great first kiss is a wonderful memory but sometimes first kisses don’t happen in Hollywoodish moments. So as long as the kisses that follow are great it is all good in my book.

Are women just as anxious about a first kiss as men?
- I never really thought about the first kiss. They just happened and before they did I knew it was just a matter of time until we’d kiss. I didn’t stress over it.

What kind of signals do you give a guy that you want to kiss him? Would you ever make the first move on a guy that was moving too slow?
- I’m not much of a flirt because I totally suck at it. However, when I “observe myself” I would say that if I don’t mind being physically close to a man and touch his arm or any other “innocent” body part occasionally that means I feel comfortable around him. And feeling comfortable translates into liking the idea of kissing him.
As I said above, I wouldn’t make a first move in the sense of initiating a kiss. But I would say something to encourage him :)


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Sheiretta White

So i though i would respond to this one very interesting topic and i want to answer those questions was asking.

1. Ladies, would you think a guy wasn’t interested if he took too long to kiss you?

No, i personally would not he just might be as nerves as me and just maybe it might not be the right time the feeling would be there if it was.

2. Would you prefer a guy take too long or go in too soon?

i’d rather him take to long then to go in to fast it would be sending mixed messages even if he wasn’t trying to jump in the sac the message would come off like that.

3. How important is a first kiss to how far the relationship will go?

i think the first kiss is as important as the first impression for me the kiss must be a sensual one soft and tender not to much and not to little what i mean by to little is that stupid little peck on the lips. the perfect kiss makes you tingle in the inside makes you wanna go for another one. That kiss that makes you say damn, that kiss that makes you see fireworks. But it soes not often tell you how far a relationship will go it just let you know you connect on a physical level.
3. Are women just as anxious about a first kiss as men?

4. What kind of signals do you give a guy that you want to kiss him?

there is no real sign it’s more of how the date went, I remember when i was out with this guy and he cooked dinner for me we talked and laughed played video games and even watched t.v but then i am a know it all so we had a disagreement and in the middle of me trying to state my point he kissed me out the blue the kiss was great and it took me by surprise but i couldn’t get mad because it felt great. i never gave a signal for it he just took his chances.

5. Would you ever make the first move on a guy that was moving too slow?

this is a funny question but no i would not make the first move i am a shy person when it comes to that but on the other hand i have made the first move as far as exchanging numbers but it took a couple of years for that lol.


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ms.m

i think u shoulda went in for the kiss… but at the same time maybe u guys were just meant to be good friends instead.

and what do you consider a clear signal? basically her just being the aggressor?? lol

if you guys were spending that much time together i think it was obvious that she liked you.


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MsKaos

I’m with Da Throne on this one…why the time limit?

I dated a bit of a slow mover…guess I wasn’t giving off the right signals and he didn’t want to jump to soon and ruin his chances altogether. I was def interested, so after 2 months of flirting and no more I just asked him what his motives were–ie friends or more. If he had said friends then I was cool with that, but I’d move on obviously. I’m not into that “one who got away” ish. His answer was much like the conv you had with Regine that he was def interested in more than friendship, but didn’t want to misread the signals on my part–rejection sucks. The rest is history–we’re
married now!


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BROWNSUGAR

I agree with some of the other ladies. If you go on a second date with someone you have contemplated whether or not you are going to kiss. And it is definitely about chemistry. Some guys are just as nervous as we are and just that single fact gives me the initiative to make the first move at times. Don’t get me wrong. I love for the man to be”the man”. But I don’t mind giving him a little push. Example: I was out at the club kicking it with my girls. I noticed a guy. So I went and introduced myself. He said he noticed me also but he wasn’t about to get shot down in front of my girls. That would have been a missed opportunity. But I took the initiative and we had a whirlwind romance. So ladies it is 2009. Do not be afraid to go after what you want. You may miss out on something wonderful…….


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Songboy3

I’m with Da Throne & Ms Kaos in this post: When you have what you feel is a genuine connection and affection for someone, what is the point of a deadline? Plus, I’m like NWSO; throw this dog a bone. I learned too many times in high school & college that all because somebody will go out with you, doesn’t mean they want to take it to the next level as it were. I’ve come to the conclusion that if we are adults, why can’t we just say what we mean and feel? My mom told me when I was around 13 that my love life was gonna be a mess. Innocently enough, I asked her why and she said it’s obvious even now at this early date that you don’t have much tolerance for the game-playing in the world of dating. Boy, was she on the money! LOL!!!


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distinguishedgentlewoman

I love, love, love kissing. And that first kiss is pretty darn special. But since my last passionate kiss, I’ve become a germaphobe. So now I have the added worry of how I’m going to react when that special someone leans in for that first one. So guys aren’t the only ones worried about things like that.


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Skye Blue

@ Shay from L.A. – Amen!


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grownandsexy83

The first kiss can be a bit intimidating for some. There definitely has to be a connection and timing does have to be right. Maybe there’s a reason that some just fall into the friend zone and others make to erogenous zones.


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Rastaman

Ans, I was like you a when I was real young cat just starting out and I was frustrated by my ability to step up my game. Women liked me because i was funny, interesting and provocative. We would hang out and I would flirt and we would vibe but more times than not they were no lip locking or serious making out. Because like you I was thinking about it too much. Yeah, too much thought messes up everyone’s game.

First you think its suppose to happen like the movies, then you think you don’t want to be one of those guys always pawing at the girl all the time you missing all her signals to come get it. Get out your own head and focus on her.

Ever thought about making her the agrressor. I have done that….continuously flirting, constant innuendos, accidental touching, brushing, innocently stroking her hair, complimenting some non-sexual body part like her chin, ear, fingers, etc. Get her revved up…then you may never need to read her about the first move, she will literally be on you.

Just a suggested course of action from over here, take it for what it is….


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Shequita

Ans…by any chance are you a virgo?


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Shequita

Never made the first move, but my most recent first kiss he came 90 and I came 10. All other kisses they came the whole 100. I really liked my most recent first kiss because he leaned in and stared deep in my eyes (he has some gorgeous eyes lol) and kinda waited till I came the other 10. It had to be a good 30 seconds before I gave in.

I dont think a guy is disinterested if he takes awhile. My girlfriend said her cutie took 2 months to kiss her.

Nothing wrong with a woman making the first move but its not my style. I’m not very good at reading a man’s signals, It’s like I need a flashing neon sign that says “I want YOU.” I’ve got to be sure.

Women are just as anxious as men about a first kiss. I can tell alot about a man and the relationship by the first kiss. My last/most recent first kiss I was left with wanting more and wanting to do it again and I still feel that way :)


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duepayer

I used to be hooooorrible at picking up signs. I often go through the same thing NWSO went through and find out she was diggin me all after the fact. There’s even been times that it was pretty much “in the bag” and I still hesitated because I wasn’t sure. I’ve gotten the ole Heisman one or two times and it left me traumatized. But I can say that whenever I’ve thrown caution to the wind recently its paid off. Women speak through subtle body language which is completely opposite to how most men work. But if you take time and pay attention, she’ll usually let you know that she’s diggin you without being overt about it. We as men just need to step up and take that chance. You only live once…


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YoungJay

I think the majority of guys with any genuine interest in a girl are nervous about a first kiss. We want everything to go perfect and we want you to remember it. What we have nightmare’s about is the train wreck of “What was that about?”. I am on the slow bus with Ans, and DaThrone though, in that I don’t understand the signs at all…

Ladies just tell us “Shut Up And Kiss Me” and things will go a lot better lol


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G.G. (Thanks Tron) aka Shay from L.A.

@ YoungJay

Shut Up And Kiss Me


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BMW2K

@ Duepayer “We as men just need to step up and take that chance. You only live once…”

Yep . . . totally agree! :-)

Call me traditional, but when dating I always expected the guy to make the first move. I figured if he wanted to, then well, he would. *shrug*. Considering how picky I was/am, the fact that I was out with him more than once was signal enough that I was interested.

Even now, if I were to find myself in that arena, I would most likely not make the first move. As far as judging a guy by his first kiss. Nope. Nerves can make first kisses awkward. Hubby had the worst first kiss, but the second try blew me away.


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da ThRONe

I dont even see the point of dating. Call me logically but I wanna hang out and then if the feeling comes up we can make the educated decision to make things romantic. Intimacy is easy(atleast for me) we can always tear it down at the drop of a hat if Im sexually attracted to you with no other attachments to anybody else.


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da ThRONe

Besides I dont wanna kiss you in your face if I cant kiss you some where else later! :P LMAO


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DC Man With a Plan

Haaaa,that’s funny, Da Throne (kissin somewhere else…lol). This blog subject is kinda funny, kinda serious, but at the end of the day, if you don’t get in where you fit in, YOU’RE wasting ery’body’s time! By the time you get through flirting and showing subtle sexual interests, if you can’t get a kiss that soothes the beast in ya– YO shyt is BROKE! I’d rather know sooner than later that we aren’t compatible on some beginner level like kissing. If we’re having dinner in a romantic place, or walking in the park holding hands, or dancing with some bumping and grinding or AT least having eyeball sex–Those are all the signs I need. Unless we’re both staring at our watches ery 5 minutes or takin calls from other ppl, the fact that we’re out on a date is a green light for a kiss, and I’m not too particular where it lands: neck, cheek, lips, ear lobe. I’m tryin to plant a lip lock on somethin, unless a woman has been a REAL turn off, in which case…I’m lookin at my watch like I’m a professional time Keeper!!! lol….Humor also helps. If you’re ending a date and shortee holds out her hand–give her the, come on baby, can’t a brotha at least get a hug? And if you’re close enuff for a hug…her body pressing all on you….your hands down by her waist…..your face in her hair or near her ear…Look at it as if you see a sign that says: START here! Bcuz if you can’t get a kiss, you’re likely not going out on another date anyways, so what is there to lose? You’re saving time and date money, things you can apply to the next worthy woman……..


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Potato w/ Jive

Yea, im one of those too fast guys, but it often is reciprocated so maybe its usually not TOO TOO fast.

I think it really comes down what you are more comfortable accepting. Its either A) you get flat out rejected or B) you have to live with the should’ve, would’ve, could’ve, of having waited too long.

I fall into the former category because i find it MUCH more difficult to endure the question mark than the definitive answer of rejection. even though I’ve definitely been rejected on that front, its been far more successes than fails.


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Tunde

like you i’m horrible at picking up signals from women. i guess i just think if a woman wants me then it would be a little more obvious.

i’ve only gotten the head turn once in life and it was the absolute worst. i remember it like it was yesterday. we were at the movies watching four brothers but we weren’t really paying attention to the movie. i went in for the kiss and she turned her head. i had never been more embarrassed in my life. it took me a while to get over that incident. come to find out she really was feeling me and wanted me to kiss her but the timing was just bad.

i have had women make the first move and when that happens i just go with the flow. i don’t know what i would do if a woman made a move on me and i wasn’t feeling her like that. that would be an awkward situation.


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Rastaman

@da Throne

I don’t see the point of taking off my shoes to board a plane or asking people how there day is going when I don’t really care. But human beings are not logical beings, so trying to apply logic to our behaviors will only cause you great mental pain.

Your just going to have to step down and join the mass of the great unwashed because guess what your outnumbered. Life is filled with pain and joy and once you take the chance of being born you are in the game, whether you like the game or not.

Relationships are tricky and fraught with the nooks and crannies of emotions and insecurity. There are no rules that apply to everyone but its often about trial and error as we all try to devise a formula that works best to give us what we want.

There are few things in life that rival the feelings of being love and having that person love you just as deeply. Once you have experienced that and lost it, most of us will do what we need to, to get that back. Beginning with that first kiss!!


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Potato w/ Jive

Yknow, im reading peoples experiences and i think past experiences certainly inform how you act in the future. I had one time, very early on in my dating life, that i surprised a girl and pulled her in and impulsively planted one on her…and it WORKED!

I think from then on, i felt it was better to just go for it instead of thinking too much about it and let the moment pass. I mean as a guy, i think its probably better to have the girl think you cant stand to not kiss her than to seem disinterested. Ladies, what yall think?

Is it better in general, to seem more aggressive/ impulsive or more pensive/ thoughtful?


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Full of Fire

if a guy cant make the first move in good time the rest of the relationship would be doomed anyway…not saying im right in making this assumption but personally, just to save time and move on to the next guy, i would assume you procrastinate in making alot of decisions in your life due to fear or insecurity…

that being said i am EXTREMELY flirtatious and can come off agressive and i know i can give off the wrong signals alot of the time… sometimes i think guys figure i would make the move if i wanted it… so i wouldnt be surprised if a guy was unsure but still at the end of the day if its going to go anywhere he has to make the first move…id rather too soon than too late or not at all…

*side note*… i absolutely hate when guys ask me ‘Can I kiss you?’…uggghhh…i have no clue why but that is considered the last date…


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brandy

Men who take too long to kiss me are put in the friend box whether they like it or not. If I haven’t gotten a smooch by the 5th date, I will tell you on the 6th that you are my new pal.


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Elle

I thought I was bad but it seems like many of you guys are signal dyslexic.

I guess my big ol’ mouth is the only reason I ever started having a love life since we have to spell it out when we would like to kiss a man.

*smh*

Potato w/ Jive sounds like my kinda guy. Just go in for the kill and see what happens.


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duepayer

I think we need a whole new post on the signals women send and how to interpret them…

If you could pull that one off there’ll be a lot more babies on this planet this time next year. lol


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YoungJay

For me it’s less about being a herb (yeah im from NY, and we still use Herb, not paprika but as in being a punk) and more about being smooth while maintaining my gentleman status.


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sanqura

@ DC Man with a plan, I totally agree with you. Now if I am feeling a brotha he can surely kiss my kissables lol, But and this is a big but, if dude is a sloppy kisser and dont know what the HELL he is doing, DAMN another date. There are so many rules now a days. If I want to kiss a brotha I am moving in gently and softly bite his bottom lip and kiss him passionately. It is as simple as that!!!


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NWSO

@Shequita

Nah, a Cap. Birthday coming soon what you getting me?

lol


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YoungJay

@ Shay

Don’t start nothing you ain’t prepared to finish lol


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Shay from L.A.

@YoungJay
:D I ALWAYS finish what I start. I’m no quitter!


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YoungJay

We shall see my dear, we shall see ; )


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Shay from L.A.

Well, you should know by now that I don’t send mixed signals ;)

With that said, you have the GREEN LIGHT!

You know how to reach me :D


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YoungJay

Now that’s a signal I can understand!


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Shay from L.A.

Now hush up and let’s play some Madden!


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YoungJay

And there goes the key to my heart : )


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jotarra

kissing to me is not a necessary piece of the pie.

i am more about a dating situation that is gentle and realistic. i’ve never needed a dramatized “oscar winning” goodnight kiss scene to happen.
ive fallen in love without one.
if a date goes well, i will feel respected. i will have been spoken to soflty and enjoyed amazing conversation, in which we can connect on an intellectual level… the physical never lasts long, at least in my experiences. I have dated for months before kissing… because our words toward one another were plain and clear- HONEST and theres never been a kiss that means more than that.

when it happens its a spectacular event… when you know you haven’t just wasted your time fantasizing abou an unrealistic partner… gabbing with the girls about this fantasy man… that ends up being the worst thing that ever happened to you… maybe im a drab… but protecting my pride as well as my reputation is high priority for me!


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Anonymous

The first kiss is the most important *kiss* and sort of fills in the defining gray areas of a new relationship. I’ve had crushes pass go and, pass on dudes who I’ve shared great convo/chemistry.

I have to say if a guy takes too long to kiss me after the first date has officially ended (meaning I’ve started the clock or am counting missed opportunities). I tend to feel like the guy is too passive and I’ll dominate him in other areas. Unfortunately, I write the man off or move him into the friendship lane quickly.

I can understand being shy and a kiss being somewhat akward if it’s pushed too soon . However, i read signals if a guy is smiling at me , looking into my eyes , watching my mouth move, and is leaned into our conversation. Sometimes i’ll just go for it and haven’t regretted it yet. *Shudder* – Yeah I looooove a good first kiss !!!:)


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Gam

I still dont get the big deal about kissing…really :/






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