How To Creep With a Co-Worker (Rules of Disengagement)

October 1st 2009 in Advice/Dear NWSO, Relationships/Love

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While I was doing research for yesterday’s Wet Wednesdays (did you guys like it?), I came across an interesting article about a woman named Jessica Wakerman, who began a sexual relationship with an older man during her college internship. She was 22 at the time of the affair and the man in question was 37.

During the course of their tryst, Jessica caught feelings and actually says she fell in love with her mentor. Unfortunately, he confessed that he could never take a younger woman seriously and she was just a rebound. Ouch!

To add insult to injury, he was later professed his love for another older woman that he wound up marrying. Jessica broke down the whole affair on TheFrisky.com.

Jessica’s story inspired Gawker.com to do an interesting article called “How Not to Screw Your Interns.” The piece included a few tips for young interns to not fall prey to horny higher ups and ways to keep their heart (word to Three Stacks).

I thought the advice was pretty on point and decided to post them as a follow-up of sorts to yesterday’s blog. Plus, I shared my own two cents on each scenario. Check it out and let me know what you guys/gals think.

1) Don’t continue sleeping with someone who is clearly really into you if that person is a shameful secret from your friends. At least not for that long. A month or two, tops.
“He didn’t introduce me to anyone as his girlfriend,” says Jessica. “Meanwhile, I absolutely considered him my lover, if not my boyfriend… He didn’t introduce me to his friends; he didn’t introduce me to his parents. That is what made me feel like a ‘Young Career Woman As Whore.’”
NWSO SAYS: This sounds like a classic case of he’s/she’s just not into you. I understand wanting to spend alone time with your partner and getting to know each other one on one, but if you’re “dating” someone and they constantly keep you away from the people in their personal life that sounds like they’re embarrassed or ashamed of you. The fact that Jessica assumed this was her boyfriend without even getting confirmation from dude was definitely her mistake. As always, communication is key.

2) Don’t pretend the person is a stranger if she/he works at your company, and if you continue sleeping with that person.
Jessica ended up hired by the magazine’s online division. The lover didn’t pull any strings to get her the gig. He also didn’t bother to acknowledge he knew her. “I’d sleep over at his apartment and we’d fool around and then we’d both be at the office as if we were two strangers,” says Jessica. “The fact that he didn’t acknowledge me at work began to make me feel like crap.”
NWSO SAYS: This one’s tricky. Having an inter-office affair more than likely goes against your job’s sexual harassment policy so I understand trying to keep things on the low. The problem is, nine times out of ten when people try to ignore someone they clearly know, they inadvertently draw even more attention to themselves and their secret. On the flipside, you don’t want to be hanging around the person’s desk all day and having daily luncheons. There’s a fine line between cool cubicle creepin’ and what’s-up-with-those-two office gossip. If y’all were cordial in the office pre-coital you should remain so after things jump off.

3) Cut it off if she/he says “I love you” (and you don’t feel the same).
This is one of the few things Mystery Editor did right: When Jessica said she loved him, in a phone call, he immediately admitted he wasn’t in love and said things should end. Which, with that sort of discrepancy of emotions, they totally should, and not in a drawn out way.
NWSO SAYS: Totally agree. Regardless of whether it’s an office romance or a real-world love affair, if someone says I love you before the other person is at that point—if at all—that becomes the elephant in the room. You either deal with it right then and there or that pachyderm will eventually sh*t all over you. Saying the L-word is all about timing because once it’s out there there’s no pulling it back. It can either accelerate your relationship forward or bring it to an abrupt end.

4) But don’t go off about the other woman you love more, right after your intern/lover says “I love you” (and you don’t feel the same).
Jessica said, “He wasn’t in love with me, he said, and, in fact, he had gone on a few dates with a woman his own age and was falling in love with her.” Ugh. Pointless stabbing someone in the gut, much?
NWSO SAYS: This is basically an asshole move. It’s one thing to end a relationship because someone says they love you and you don’t feel the same. Actually, that’s a pretty mature thing to do. But it’s a whole other thing to reject the person and promptly profess your love for another. Even if that’s case it’s best to let that person down easy so they can process things. There’s no need to let them know about your new boo right then and there. No point throwing salt in a fresh wound.

5) No follow-up lunch!
What’s the point? Especially when you’ve moved on. Jessica met up with her ex after she noticed on FaceBook that he’d gotten engaged to that other woman, one year down the line. “We met for lunch and he told me they were in love and they wanted to marry and have kids,” said Jessica. “I have not spoken to him since that lunch… I’ve washed my hands clean of him.”
NWSO SAYS: Sometimes closure is needed to move on, but if there are latent feelings on the part of the unrequited lover it might be best to keep your distance and keep it moving. Problem is, if you work together that might not be the easiest thing in the world to do. That’s why deciding to engage in an inter-office affair is a big gamble. Breaking up is hard enough but having to see the person that hurt you (or you hate) day in and out as you work side by side could get messy. ThatsABadLook.com (coming soon).

What did you think of these tips? Did you find them useful or completely obvious? Is it wrong for a supervisor to sleep with an intern? Do you think that Jessica played herself by falling in love with her mentor? Have you ever suspected co-workers of getting it on? What was the red flag for you? Would you feel cheap if you slept with someone last night and then they ignored you at work the next day? Is there anything you’d add to the list for successfully ending an office affair?

Speak your piece…

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23 comments to...
“How To Creep With a Co-Worker (Rules of Disengagement)”
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Spinster

Yeah, read that Gawker article a couple weeks ago. Makes sense.

Like someone said yesterday, don’t fuck where you work. (Well, that’s just me. To each their own.)


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lovelydma

sometimes you can get caught up in your own fantasy and not even acknowledge the blatantly obvious truths


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Elle

I can sooooo not relate to ever getting caught up in such an affair that I really have no opinion on it all.

Work is work, play is play.

9 times out of 10 workplace affairs end up in drama of some sort. Why would anyone in their right mind set themselves up for it knowingly?

I wouldn’t need those rules because I already have one I follow religiously: Do not fuck where you eat.


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Mz. Ashley

This article make sense, but is very obvious! Me personally, I think you have to be stupid to stay with a guy that does not introduce you to anyone in his life. If he ignores you at work(i get keepin it on the DL, but a simple smile or hey will work!) This girl sounds really deperate to me. Guys do not want someone who makes themselves look so avaliable and will break down there own self-esteem just to have a “lover”. But i agree with Elle…..work is work, play is play. Keep like that.


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That Guy

4 words:
Just DONT do it!

I have never heard of a workplace situation ending cool. Someone always wants more, even if its just more sex. When your mix in organizational hierarchies and such, its just too sticky to be worth it. If your a professional, then its just common sense to not do anything that can take away from your creditability.

Elle said it right, and theres so many other people available that its just not worth the risk.


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Chanel

She was 22, so I reluctantly give her a pass on this one. I remember that age. you think you’re so worldly and you know everything — until you meet someone who shows you just how naive you really are. I can see EXACTLY how she got into this situation and I really feel for her. It’s hilarious that I see all the red flags clearly now and can avoid them, when I might have plunged in full speed ahead back in the day. Youth really is wasted on the young, isn’t it?


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da ThRONe

Im With That Guy

Once again I dont shit were I eat.


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DC Man With a Plan

I’m still pondering # 3. If you profess your love to someone, and find they do not feel the same at THAT moment, why is it necessary to cut things off? It’s one thing if dude knows he will NEVA love her, but quite another if he just hasn’t reached that “moment” in time yet. Who says we gotta feel the magic of love at the same moment? I don’t get that thought pattern/explantation. Anyways, if you doin adult shyt, you gotta have an adult attitude about how things work when the fantasy is ova.


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Mz. VooDoo

Some cannot help having a “workplace” affair. We all are human and things happen. But to fall for your supervisior and for them to lead you on, that is just shameful. Of course, many co-workers get it on, but work is work and play is play.


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da ThRONe

@Mz. Voodoo

Thats like saying some people cant help cheating! Its your body which you have full control over.


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~trust no one~

In my personal experience, I think that anyone who is going to sleep w someone from work should be very upfront to begin with. You should let them know if you are looking for a relationship or just a fuck. Our engagement was talked about very openly for quite some time and then once we decided to “fuck” that’s what it was, nothing more nothing less. Needless to say we still work together and still get along as the best of friends!


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NWSO

@DC

I think it pretty much relates to someone that won’t feel that way. I don’t really buy into your why not give me a chance to fall in love with you too logic. I know if I told someone that I love you and their response was uhm, okay that’s nice. I’d be heartbroken/crushed etc and really wouldn’t see much of a future there.

That’s not to say two people can’t fall in love at different times but once you put that out there and that person is on some not now tip, doesn’t seem like much hope to me.


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Elle

@DC

I agree with Ans. From my experience two people who are equally interested in each other develop feelings at the same pace and things happen naturally.
When things are awkward, they usually are for a very good reason.


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DC Man With a Plan

lol @ NWSO…..with the, uhm, yeah, that’s nice! Dang, hopefully ANYONE hearing ” I love you ” from someone they’ve been dealing with hopefully can come up with a better, more considerate response than that….Bcuz yeah, that would be crushing. But you AND Elle make it seem like bcuz she says: I love you…I gotta say it too? At the same time? Like we flippin twins or H.S teenagers? What else we gonna do–end calls with: You hang up, naw, U hang up first…PLEEZZZZZZ…lmao. Yeah it’s awkward, but I’d rather hear a woman say: Aww, that’s sweet or something else, instead of FEELING and sounding forced to say I love you bcuz I said I love you…AND for the record, ladies, don’t believe the hype! SOME Dudes say I love you with the same ease and intensity with which they say ” have a nice day.” And I love you could be short hand, that REALLY means: I love you…”when you’re naked,” or, I love you “ on your knees, doin THAT shyt”…etc,. I’m just sayin, based on MY distant past…….I love you can be a highly abused statement….
Ohh, were y’all speaking of the REAL, heartfelt I love you? huh. Ok, well, this was to ensure we cover ALL the bases for those who are still playin with the term ” I love you.”


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Elle

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DC you’re being complicated.

I was solely talking about serious, heartfelt “I love you”s and how people who are equally “smitten” by each other usually develop the urge to say those words within the same timeframe.

By no means am I implying that because one person says it, the other has to respond accordingly. Heck, the running gag in my circle of friends is how I replied “good for you” when a guy told me he loved me. “Ok” is the slightly nicer version. So yea … I’d never say it just because. I mean what I say and say what I mean – no more and definitely no less.


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Cali

The answer to ending an Office Affair is NEVER letting a office affair get started unless the person but in there resignation and are leaving. Affairs with co-workers are 2 complicated……I am cool with one of my co-worker and we decided to take it 2 another level. Things were good at first, we’d meet up here and there, hang out, go on dates, just the whole works. People around the office knew we were cool and even talked about us, but we didn’t pay it much mind because we were cool from the start and any office always has to have a gossip committee. So things were going good until one day we got in a heated arguement. So despite our arguement being personal, it ended up affecting my work. When I’d b working and need his assistance he’d put me off or blow me off because he was mad at me. I understand being mad at someone but not f*cking things up for them when it’s involving work. I realized at that very moment it was a wrap. He couldn’t seem to seperate personal from work, and I couldn’t deal with it. So I cut it off. We are still cool but that’s it. So just say no, cause co-worker affairs lead to disaster.


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Ms P

I guess Dave Letterman should have read this post…:)


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NWSO

@DC

Yeah, no one should say I Love you because they feel forced to or just to get some, that’s just some words you don’t play with. The point is/was that if you’re not at the same level or on some let’s kick it and the other person is on some let’s lock this down, you’re on two different planes and different directions, so if you’re mature about the situation you can look at it like this really won’t go anywhere so let’s end it. No point stringing someone along when you know the end point is in the near distance.


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AmpGeez a.k.a Get Rich Or Blog Tryin'

Never let the honey get in front of the money.

Dating on the gig can lead to unnecessary drama.


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popinfresh26

Well I had an office affair years ago and my coworker was a great help to my career.
He was on the board of directors of a community agency and helped me to acquire a job there when I was laid off from my other job. I resigned from that job and eventually got on the board of directors of my former job..
He opened a whole new world for me in the world of politics etc..but when he proposed I knew I wasnt in love with him so I had to break it off.. We still remain friends to this day..
Every ones experiences are different I am glad mine was a happy ending..
I feel the tips are useful, people make mistakes, and I would feel totally upset if the man I had an affair with ignored me at work..


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undressingHER

thankfully, I work alone……and for myself. I’ve only had sex with one woman that worked with in my life, and even then, I’d already quit working there by the time I got her over my house. It went great until I tried to have sex with her friend.


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bogart4017

Mostly these things never work out. Luckily for me i got a 22 year marriage and a lifelong partner out of it.


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capricorn

I had an affair with a co worker years ago. We are still cool now almost 9 years later. It started off as innocent flirting, that got into discussions, that turned into a “I bet you won’t” thing. So one saturday, when we were both working some OT, it happened. It didn’t help that he was the IT guy and his office was waaaaay in the back. And had a door. And he always kept it closed. I got a tad bit loud and when we finished we realized that another co worker was there. We played it off so well, to the point that no one eer asked about it. We both moved on to other jobs and still occasionally hook up. I’ll chalk homegirl’s experience to youth. It takes a while to learn that sex doesnt always equal love.






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